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November 3, 2007

Gays, Lesbians, and My Hijab



My cousin and I had a very interesting conversation the other day, ill ask you guys the same questions that came up

Lesbian women look at other women the same way men do, doesn't that mean we should wear our hijab in front of them?

What about gay men? I mean we do nothing for them right, and they are definitely not someone we can marry, so do we need to wear our hijab in front of them too?

come on when you think about it I'm making perfect sense here!
posted by eshda3wa at 1:10 AM

40 Comments:

The Awra against a Man or a woman acting like a man is the same!

I don't think anyone would feel comfortable with someone looking with intent at them. It doesn't matter if it was a man or a woman

As for the man, it doesn't matter. If he's gay or not, He shouldn't see.

November 3, 2007 at 3:16 AM  

Hmm, never thought of it in this way.. Donno what to say?!

November 3, 2007 at 3:43 AM  

ok, I don't really know what the Islamic ruling is on this but if you feel that you can't take your hijab off in front of "lesbian" woman and are wondering if you can in front of "gay" men than you're also validating the sexual orientation which is something that Islam doesn't validate. Alot of this depends on whether you see homosexuality as a preference rather than something that can't be helped; Islam recognizes that some people have much stronger urges and temptations than others. With that said, there are shyukh that say you shouldn't take your hijab off in front of nonmuslim women for those reasons.

So my conclusion is you definately shouldn't take your hijab off in front of men that claim they're gay and I don't know about lesbian women really.

November 3, 2007 at 3:44 AM  

NO!
beacuae they shouldn't be gay or lesbian , it it WRONG! this is why

November 3, 2007 at 3:52 AM  

well i dont know the rule for that really....but i never thought you'd be met7agba....

maybe coz of your blogs header :P

November 3, 2007 at 3:59 AM  

if you're really confused, i dont know.. just not wear it in the first place, unless its really cold or you're having a bad hair day.

hey, you know what i miss? toe cleavage! AW SEXAY!! now THATS yabeela hiding

November 3, 2007 at 4:29 AM  

It's all too confusing if you ask me!

November 3, 2007 at 7:51 AM  

Well, yes Awra is defined by Islam, so as Qwaider said, it doesnt matter man or woman..

As for the lisbos, you do what you want & let them go to hell! It's their mistakes not yours to make you feel uncomfortablel like that.

November 3, 2007 at 9:15 AM  

:D what ?

November 3, 2007 at 10:32 AM  

I honestly don't know so I can't efti in this matter. I will ask a local sheikh and come back to you on this

November 3, 2007 at 11:05 AM  

qwaider
makes sense

shayouma
3ade, maybe the rest of the comments will give us both an idea

asoom
i never did, and u make a very good point!

momo
sure its wrong, ok gay men aside, lesbian woman, even if its wrong they still desire u sexually no? so its like a man looking at u, bs its a woman, so shino el7ukm here?

spikey
11 years and counting ;)

wiener
chubay

pinky
hehe
it is

chika
true, bs its still uncomfortable! ma3alaih .. allah elhadi!

grey
lol
nothing, go back to pokeing ur penguin :P

kj
alrite
will be waiting

November 3, 2007 at 12:02 PM  

I have another question; and it's not just about hijab?

how do you know if there's lesbian or gay in a female toilet?! what do you do if you found one?

November 3, 2007 at 12:06 PM  

rekoo
i rarely use public bathrooms, and i never take my 7jab off either way, so i never thought of it.... but interesting!

November 3, 2007 at 12:23 PM  

hmm, i think we should still wear hijab infront of gays in addition to lesbians.

November 3, 2007 at 12:43 PM  

Even though this is interesting topic but you seem you forgot something: lesbians are not attracted to straight people. I mean she might admire your hair but she will not act on it because that lesbian realizes that you are straight and will make sure to steer clear from you. Second, lesbians just like gay men possess something called gaydar...if you ain't gay their gaydars won't peep.

As for gay guys they will not care wether you wore your hijab or not because they couldn't care less. Even though I'm not a spokesperson of gay people but we tend to have the misconception all homosexual people are transsexual...and it most cases...it is not.

November 3, 2007 at 1:51 PM  

I think it's all about el 3awra ya3ni you cover infront of men and uncover infront of women gay or not, BUT you also cover infront of ANYTHING that makes you uncomfortable, even if it's a tree. Having said that, gay or not, cover infront of allll men you never know what you might trigger...

my dear itha mit7ajba min sneen you should really modify your curly hair pic

November 3, 2007 at 1:51 PM  

This is an interesting subject, but with so many different questions. I honestly think the matter of intent is important, but Islam has a way to deal with the types of people who like same sex. Its one hell of a subject to jump into, but your right with your reasoning to a degree, but your better off playing it safe.

For some reason I'm seeing two interconnected circles in my head regarding this subject! lol

November 3, 2007 at 2:19 PM  

nafs tafkeeri :S still didnt get an answer though

November 3, 2007 at 2:21 PM  

mais abdullah
hmmmm
i duno

angelo
lesbians mite not hit on straight girls, but that dosent mean its gna stop em from thinking a woman is hot or being attracted to her. And take it from me, alot of the girls do hit on straight women.
I know a gay guy couldnt care less, and that is the reason why im asking if theres a need for me to cover up

hammoodee
i would , but its not a picture of me so its ok :)

November 3, 2007 at 2:21 PM  

I had the same conversation with my friends.

Theoretically speaking, gays r not attracted to girls and lesbians r attracted to girls, so (theoretically) u should itagha6ain 3an il lesbian not the gay hehe.

But still rules r rules. U make perfect sense, but since its not really defined in Islam, then one should stick to the original rules of the hijab i think.

November 3, 2007 at 2:27 PM  

marzouq
LoL!
i think im gna do just that, play it safe

shousha
ya, bs i think like most ppl said its better to play it safe

this lady says
when it comes to men then ya, just keep wearing it
bs what about lesbians, ya3ne madre its confusing!

November 3, 2007 at 2:45 PM  

im not qualified to post out a fatwa... but i know that even from blind people we should still wear 7ejab... so, it's a bit deeper than just visual affect.

November 3, 2007 at 2:50 PM  

Hmmm.. that actully did cross my mind before.. and i AGREE with u ! a lesbian will be looking at u the same way a man wud so i personaly won't feel comfortable.. and a gay guy wudn't even look lol so 3adi ..

November 3, 2007 at 3:11 PM  

Hmmm... i really think nope
yyou will be giving them excuses that way

November 3, 2007 at 3:20 PM  

i never thought about it hmmm yamkin 9a7

November 3, 2007 at 3:55 PM  

Mmmm .. for gays .. I think I'll still keep my hejab on in their existance .. i wont feel comfortable if i didnt!

for lesbians .. mmmm .. i'll keep it on tooo :) ye5awfooooooooon !! they have this look .. channa rayyal ye6al3ech mo ebnaya

November 3, 2007 at 4:37 PM  

i would wear it infront of lesbo's and gays...bs let me wear it first :P

November 3, 2007 at 6:50 PM  

a man is a man and a women is a women. so it is better 2 play it safe.

November 3, 2007 at 7:18 PM  

Thank God somebody thought of this topic. I started having this discussion with my brain a couple of years ago but never arrived to a conclusion.

You know what? I am gonna tease my girlfriends that are met7ajbeeen.. looool. khaleehom yefootoo bil 7eit...lool

November 3, 2007 at 9:10 PM  

wow ! walla this is serious !! bs I think it wont matter .. I mean people can act they way the wana but they cant change the fact that they are who they REALLY are .. bs madry !! you make sure oo tell us about it :P

November 3, 2007 at 9:35 PM  

loool ee wala sij ! :P

November 3, 2007 at 9:51 PM  

Did you see Oprahs show today? it was about that... and about ppl who were neither men nor female ! even their private parts you cant tell if its a woman or a man.. something to do with genetics.

I agree with all the above comments

November 3, 2007 at 10:59 PM  

hmmm interesting...it makes sense in a very weird way

November 3, 2007 at 11:25 PM  

That is some question, I should say. I never thought I would wear my hejab in front of a lesbian.. yeah she might hit on me in some way.. but so can straight men even if I was wearing my hejab. As for gay men, I think I'd keep my hejab, some guys just play gay to get closer to girls, I've seen them on TV! Even if they were really gay.. I think it's still a safer choice.
Either ways.. I think it goes beyond that and at the end, you should do what makes more sense to you.

November 3, 2007 at 11:27 PM  

wahahahahhaahahhhahahahahahahaahahahahahaa

youre a genius u know that? :P

November 4, 2007 at 9:28 AM  

maybe you should just wear a hijab infront of everyone. men, women, dogs, sheep, keleshai.

i mean, you never know right?

November 4, 2007 at 9:29 AM  

Here's the thing, Gays and Lesbians shouldn't even be in the equation because they should be dealt with according to Islamic rules on perverted sexual orientation, so they shouldn't exist in the first place.

..but since the rules aren't applied, you have to deal with them as straights since there is no other verdict about the thing.

Go with what you have, don't use the lack of a more detailed rule as an excuse to over-look it.

November 7, 2007 at 2:32 PM  

Hi my name is Mal. I think that Islam is based on logic. Man or woman we should not take the Hijab off if we know that the person is Gay. As for gay men we still should not take it off as we are not clear of there intentions. I believe this because when i was in high school i knew a girl who admired my hair, eyes and my smile. I later found out that she admired them sexually. Hijab will protect you from the eye of lesbians. I wear it now but i wish i wore it then.

April 10, 2008 at 10:53 AM  

Are you seriously asking such a question? Subhanallah. If you know the deen well, then you'd know that first of all, such idealogies are not allowed in Islam. And second, women are to be convered in front of men regardless...

March 23, 2009 at 7:28 PM  

Women, covering infront of any non-mmahram man and a disbeliever (regardless of gender) is an obligation, Gays and Lesbians are not Muslims therefore you must cover up infront of both of them, Allah only allows women to be uncovered infront of their mahrams (not including paternal uncles) and their own women (Muslim women) but not the disbelievers

January 15, 2010 at 4:24 AM  

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